a next generation ministry podcast


NEXT, formerly "When You Gonna Be a Real pastor?", was started by two New England Christian & Missionary Alliance youth pastors. 

Ryan Baker and Zach Hummer began the podcast out of a passion for youth ministry. They desired to train youth workers on best ministry practices that they've picked up along their journeys, as well as bringing awareness to current happenings in youth culture, with a few laughs along the way. Okay...who are we kidding...lots of laughs. Youth Ministry has changed drastically with every passing decade, and Ryan and Zach knew they could help bring great insight into the youth ministry sphere.

The depth and complexity of youth ministry now wasn’t even conceived of back in the day.
— Nate Parks, CEO Berea Ministries

After a few episodes they were discovered by Alliance Youth Consultant, Dan Boal, who invited them to become the official podcast of Alliance Youth. It's proved to be an amazing partnership, both for Zach and Ryan, as well as the 1,500 youth workers the Alliance serves.

With passion and banter, Ryan & Zach share their insightful wisdom with youth and children's workers. Whether you're a seasoned vet, or a volunteer asking the question, "How did I get here?" NEXT will be an asset to your ministry and spiritual life.


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